The 357 Sig is very comparable to the lighter bullets in the 357s range, (why I shoot both the 10mm and the 357 Sig) in Glocks. I’m writing this because I want to decide between getting a 357 mag and 10mm. Wheras I've seen 357Sig and 10mm in many available options, it may be more difficult to find, but it is possible to find. To start we need to look at the history of each cartridge..357 Sig History. The 357s when near max always have felt "stout" to me, you know youre shooting a magnum with the big BOOOM and muzzle flash, etc. That is at least 150 fps faster than the the hottest 10mm loads, probably more like 200 fps faster. The .357 Magnum is a powerful cartridge, but in this case it takes a narrow 2nd place to the 10mm Auto. Re: 9x25 Dillon vs .357 SIG « Reply #3 on: June 15, 2017, 07:09:23 PM » From my two 3.78"barrels the 357Sig gets 1350-1400 fps with most 125 grain bullets and the … 10mm ammo also happens to be the most expensive of these three loads. nomenclature: 10 mm Auto, official SAAMI nomenclature: 10mm Automatic) is a powerful semi-automatic pistol cartridge first developed by U.S. Marine Jeff Cooper and introduced in 1983 with the Bren Ten pistol. The idea was to recreate the ballistics of the 125-grain .357 magnum in a semi-auto cartridge. It could have done well in tests such as 10mm vs. 45 acp, 357 vs. 10mm, and 40 vs 10mm ammo. The age-old 10mm vs .357 Magnum question is about to be answered once and for all. Here are a few examples of 357 magnum vs. 10mm muzzle velocity: As you can see above, only one comparison had an advantage for the .357 Magnum, and this was only a slight advantage. For use I've heard from many sources of LEO using 357 Sig on 2 legged nasties and 4 legged nasties including Pits and Rotties in full on attack mode to great effect. Like the .357 Magnum, the 10mm Auto was also adopted by law enforcement to stop dangerous criminals. Nosler JHP at 1560 fps out of a *ported* … For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction; that is one of the physical laws of our universe. In the YouTube video below, Elijah pits the two middleweight cartridges against one another and gives us some empirical data. To answer your question I would go with the 10mm. The 357 Sig isn't going anywhere, it is many times more popular than the GAP which Glock still continues to offer and will likely do so for years to come. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare 10mm Auto vs .357 SIG ammo rounds. This led to the adoption, as well as the adaptation, of the 10mm Auto cartridge. 10mm vs .357 Magnum for Bear Protection in Alaska. One made it, and one didn’t. 10mm generally packs higher muzzle energies thanks in large part to the larger bullets. As you can see with the bullet diameter in the tables below, the .357 Sig has a neck diameter of 9.68 mm and a length of 28.9mm. The 10mm with its current factory charges, does not come anywhere near to the .357 Magnum. The subcompact Glock 29 holds 10+1 rounds. (They have also been adapted to lever action carbines.) Close. A .357 Magnum is formidable as hell, but that doesn’t mean anything when you can’t hit a charging bear. So, the cartridge was developed by Elmer Keith, Phil Sharpe, along with Smith and Wesson, by performing changes on the .38 that was used back then. Although there were other slight changes, the .357 Magnum is essentially an elongated .38 Special. If you use the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s guidelines as the bar to measure a “good” round, both calibers present several excellent options for carry ammo or home defense. .357 S&W Magnum While some folks claim the .44 Magnum is the minimum for charging bears, many others have opted for a Glock 20 in 10mm Auto and, interestingly enough, passed right by the .357 S&W Magnum. The G20 and G40 both come with 15-round magazines. The Clash of the Cartridges: .357 Magnum vs. .45 ACP. While the .357 Magnum is typically a revolver round, and the 10mm Auto is a semi-automatic pistol round, both were developed with specific purposes. A common theme you will run into when people are discussing the 10mm Auto is that it falls into an awkward weird little crevice somewhere between the performance of a .40 S&W or 9mm and the performance of larger calibers such as the .45 ACP and .357. In handguns its revolvers (357 Mag.) This is what is available currently. 10mm VS .357 Magnum against pumpkins! .357 Sig.357 Mag.40 S&W; 10mm.41 Mag.44 Special.44 Mag.45 ACP ('08).45 ACP ('15).45 Colt.45 Super.460 Rowland.223 Rifle.45 Super Results in fps.45 Super and .450 SMC (Short Magnum Cartridge) are two relatively recent variations on the classic .45 ACP cartridge. © Copyright Ammotogo.com 2021 All Rights Reserved. Semi autos tend to hold more rounds in a similar sized package. Heavy .38 Special +P Pistol and Handgun Ammo. While the 180-grain is most common, there are other loadings as well, including the 155-grain JHP at 1,100 fps and Hornady’s Critical Defense at 165-grains that offer good expansion while maintaining good penetration. In this 357 magnum vs 10mm debate, both are relatively strong handgun loads and you can’t go wrong if that’s what you’re looking for. Going by feel alone is not a good way to compare handgun power. Subcompact pistols are not well-suited to the .40 S&W or the .357 SIG, 10mm Auto or .45 ACP. 11. I hope you enjoy the video and thanks for watching! 10mm vs 357. Our professionals have provided an in-depth analysis of the 10mm auto vs 10.9×33mmR controversy using the following distinction factors: Conversely, the 900/1200 difference is considerable. On the 10mm side of the fence they like to point out that it has more energy at 100 yards vs the .45 ACP does at the muzzle. I think the Witness series can do this too. An inevitable comparison of the 10mm and .357 Magnum must be addressed—particularly in light of the introduction of the Ruger GP100 10mm revolver. We witnessed 30% of the loads tested expand .7″ of an inch or more when fired through a barrier into gel. Many many more pistol factories turning out large numbers of 9mm sized frames compared to .45 ACP sized frames required for 10mm. Points to consider when deciding between the 10mm vs .45 ACP: Cartridge application; Recoil sensitivity; Potential need for fast follow-up shots; Handgun size (.45 has more compact options) Average engagement range; Price per round (one is a bit more spendy than the other) These are two incredibly reliable, versatile, and powerful rounds, so it really comes down to which you prefer: revolvers or semiautomatics. When it comes to muzzle velocity, there is so much overlap in performance that, once again, naming a champion is incredibly difficult. Using our self-defense ammo testing in each caliber, it’ll give us a good baseline to examine the effectiveness of each round for self-defense. 3,130 Posts #21 • 5 mo ago. This is my CCW. 10MM vs .357 Magnum. 3) Last but not least, a 10mm is definitely not appropriate for a charging Grizzly, this is akin to a 357 magnum, might as well put that gun in your mouth and pull the trigger. bullet holes from a 10mm glock 29 and 357 smith & wesson 640. The 357 Sig on the other hand is the same size and weight as 9mm handguns but offers performance approaching the 10mm. After a violent and tragic engagement between FBI agents and bank robbers, the cartridge was given new attention and adopted by federal organizations. The 10mm may be the perfect self defense round. You can see the full results and details on the post at Lucky Gunner Labs.Today, I want to dig into those results a little bit and I also want to tackle the broader question of whether or not 10mm is a good choice for self-defense. Left to right; 357 Magnum, 357 Sig, 9x25 Dillon, 10mm Auto. For my money, I wouldn’t trust a 9mm, even though it seems to pass the test here. For people who carry for self-defense, there is a never-ending debate about the appropriate number of rounds for a concealed-carry cartridge. Comparisons. There are three important things to take away when you put the 10mm and the 44 Mag side by side. Because of that, you might give 10mm a slight advantage in this category but both represent awesome choices compared to smaller-bore cartridges. You might look at their Gold Dot offerings, and compare. At the high end, the most expensive .357 Mag was $1.90, while the most expensive 10mm Auto round was $1.50. The .357 Magnum vs. the .45 Colt: Quick and low, big and slow. A 10mm WC is interesting as one could skip the speed-loaders and just carry the moon clips as spares. It does not have the massive overall adoption among private users, making it one of the most underrated cartridges in the American collection. In velocity maybe, but in actual delivered power, no. Don't have to worry about that with my .357. That includes rounds for hunting, high-volume target practice, and personal defense. 10mm semi auto vs 357 revolver for woods gun? If you prefer the simplicity of a revolver, then you’ll likely lean toward the .357 Magnum. Speaking of Glock's and carrying, I found only one G-gun that I like, the G29 in 10mm. The cartridges. However, those statements also reflect … The 10mm Auto is ballistically inferior to the established .357 Magnum, .41 Magnum and .44 Magnum cartridges, all of which were designed specifically for use in revolvers. 10MM vs .357 Magnum. The 10mm Auto devotees point out that the 10mm has more energy remaining at 100 yards than the .45 ACP does at the muzzle. Yet, when it comes to sports shooting or personal defense, both 10mm and 9mm have their advantages. I think 357 Sig is a perfectly acceptable handgun round. The 10mm is easily the most powerful of those named. No, it's not. In contrast, a .500 Smith & Wesson with a 440-grain bullet has 2,579 foot-pounds of energy. 9mm vs .357 Sig vs 10mm vs 5.7x28mm vs Body Armor Uploaded by downrangevideos on April 2, 2019 at 6:27 am Today on Kentucky Ballistics we shoot some soft body armor with 9mm, 357 Sig, 10mm and 5.7x28mm! Of the loads we tested in each caliber, it does appear the 10mm provides options with greater expansion. A 158gr. I see. Handloading for 10mm as a revolver only must be a joy! I am using two specific handguns for specific reasons, the main reason is that the 10mm pistol is a Glock 41 .45 ACP with a 5.32' 10mm conversion barr I would say a better comparison is the .357 SIG is loaded to moderate .357 magnum offerings whereas the 10mm can be loaded to HOT .357 magnum offerings, and beyond. The first is their bullet diameters. Alliant has load data published for it. But if you hit someone in the same spot with a 357sig, 10mm, 45acp, or 40sw their response (or lack thereof) will almost certainly be about the same with each. 10mm vs. .357 mag ballistic gelatin test .357 mag Prograde 180 gr XTP fired from 4" barrel S&W Model 13 through four layers of denim into calibrated gelatin. In the 90s, two rounds firing 9 mm diameter bullets were introduced-the 9x23 mm and the .357 Sig. I like 10mm for similar power levels to 357 Mag in a shorter fatter cartridge that works better with moonclips and is a little gentler on my ear when fired without protection. Is it on the same level as 10mm? Posted by 1 month ago. I have both a 44 and a couple 10mm's plus several 357's. It makes a hell of an impression. 10mm is often considered the .357 equivalent for pistols and reasonably so. 357/38 special vs 40sw/10mm. Same reason .40 S&W killed 10mm. The guns (unless talking Coonan .357 or 10mm revolver) are different enough that they seem to fit totally different roles. Today, the .357 SIG’s performance has turned me from foe to fan. The .45 and 10mm are both large frame guns which puts a damper on CC. Deduct $1.25 a box from listed prices for unfinished bullets. I’ve heard of the 10mm Magnum, a rimmed cartridge that uses a 1.255-inch-long case, which is 26.77% longer than the 10mm’s 0.99-inch-long case.. Unless it's at a considerably higher pressure it can't deliver the same muzzle energy as 10mm Norma loads. All are sold in boxes of 500 pcs. 10mm has been used to stop animals as large as bears. .357 magnum, because you have the ability to load it much more powerful then a 10mm. I've got some .44 loads that I can shoot in an auto all day, which quickly become not much fun in a revolver or single-shot. Feb 24, 2006. I am surprised that law enforcement has not gone to the .357, tests revealed that the .357 sig had better penetration through steel frame doors than a .357 revolver and almost as much ft/lbs. I have measured my own load with the 135 gr. There is, of course, a cost to the larger round in weighing 10mm vs 9mm. (water filled) Guns used are the 5.32" Glock 41 10mm conversion and the S&W 686 4.125", both guns have about the same internal travel distance of the bullets, and both rounds had pretty much identical energy (792 FPE for the 10MM and 794 FPE for the .357 Mag) and both the 125 gr .357 XTP bullet and the 155 gr 10mm XTP bullet have about the same … Yeh, I think most gun enthusiasts understand how powerful both these handguns are. In actuality, the .357 Sig is much closer to the 9.19mm than it the .357 Magnum bullet. .357 Sig GD shot out of my .357 Sig X-Changed M11-A1 is quite manageable (and enjoyable). 10mm Auto: FMJ: 200: 490: 1050: Buffalo Bore Ammunition Ballistics .357 Sig fits in a 9mm sized frame, 10mm doesnt. A .357 Magnum is formidable as hell, but that doesn’t mean anything when you can’t hit a charging bear. Reliably differences between the 2 is basically non-existant. The Remington Magnum ammo, also called 10.9×33mmR, has a rimmed straight case and is designed for large pistols. Which is better: 10mm vs. .357? As such, the following is for comparative information … 380 Auto +P Pistol and Handgun Ammo. 8. .357 Sig.357 Mag.40 S&W; 10mm.41 Mag.44 Special.44 Mag.45 ACP ('08).45 ACP ('15).45 Colt.45 Super.460 Rowland.223 Rifle Acknowledgements. >> They don't list the test barrel sizes, though, I don't think. I enjoy it more now especially since brass is scarce . They basically shortened a 10mm case and necked it down to take a 9mm diameter bullet. The 10mm is a great choice for those looking for a hunting handgun or a brush gun for self-protection from animals. .45 vs .40SW vs 10mm vs .357SIG 01-31-2002, 02:20 PM I currently own a Glock 23, very nice gun, accurate, easy to operate, lightweight, but I have read a lot about the .357SIG round, which I can convert to with a simple barrel change-out. I’ve noticed a slow, yet steady, resurgence of interest in the 10mm… 10mm Auto vs. 357 Magnum The test subjects: The Glock 29 Gen 4 in 10mm and the Smith & Wesson Model 27 with 3.77 and 4.0 inch barrels respectively. Handgun Recoil Table By Chuck Hawks. I am more of a revolver guy also but 10mm Auto wins over 357 Mag for me. Used for hunting, target shooting, and self-defense, the .357 Magnum remains a common sight at gun ranges and hunting grounds across the country. the 357 Sig, 40 S&W, 10mm and 9X23 are all relative newcomers compared to the 38 Super. Nevertheless, .357 does offer a noticeable advantage in terms of penetrating power, which is something to consider if you’re hunting big game. The bear is 7 seconds form being on top of you. Comparisons: 10mm vs. .357 Mag. I have the .357 Sig Glock, it is a very impressive round. Having once had a GP-100 WC .357 Magnum that I was foolish to sell. .357 doesn’t have the capacity to be comfortable as a bear gun. 10mm generally packs higher muzzle energies thanks in large part to the larger bullets. snubbie, I'd have to say that since your experience is mostly with revolvers, go with the Ruger. not a 10mm fan, but its not a bad round. A more accurate comparison would be to par the 10mm Auto to a full-house .357 Magnum in a 5″-6″ barrel. The more we all know, the better organized and stronger the shooting and hunting community will be. But range ammo will be spendy for 10mm. Forget any handgun.” Freel’s remarks are sobering, but they’re also useful. I’ve measured Cor-Bon, Remington, Winchester, Federal CastCore, Alaskan local custom loads and other possible commercial loads (in both 180 and 200-grain) but so far, nothing compares with the 357 Magnum Buffalo Bore ammo as a load that will stand on all fours with 10MM Auto, 41 Magnum and 44 Magnum loads for field protection. With modern loads this isn’t necessarily true. For self defense (against humans) the 10 might actually have an advantage, but where deeper penetration is needed the .357 is superior. 10mm is in the same "class" as 357 Mag, 45 Super and 9x25 Dillon. The 10mm Auto is a cartridge designed specifically for semiautomatic pistols, one of the main reasons it was adopted by the FBI and other law enforcement agencies. I have a G23 that I could get a conversion barrel for .357 preventing the need of a whole new gun. Although the cartridge had been released six years earlier, the 1986 shootout between FBI agents and bank robbers in Miami created a new need for the 10mm Auto. Now, the max pressure is a little higher on the 10 vs the 45 (37,500 vs 21,000 psi), and again on the 357 sig the max pressure allowance is a little higher vs the .40 smith (44,237 vs 32,633 psi). Even with similar bullets, however, it appears the 10mm does slightly better. 9mm vs .357 Sig vs 10mm vs 5.7x28mm vs Ballistic Gel Today on Kentucky Ballistics we perform a ballistic gel test with 9mm, 357 Sig, 10mm and 5.7x28mm. I have several reports of Bears stopped with every day carry pistols in .40 S&W, .357 Sig and .45ACP. SKU: 445 SM 240/20. How about working up the .357 with Blue Dot? Flexibility is the name of the game with the Aero Survival Rifle, but you aren’t purely confined to a 10mm carbine investing in one. Both are pretty similar, honestly. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare 10mm Auto vs .357 Magnum ammo rounds. The .357 load was probably intended for use in a much longer barrel. We could fill a book comparing one .357 Magnum against another 10mm Auto, but it seems fair that, in general, you will find most comparable 10mm rounds have a slight advantage in energies. 6.5 Creedmoor vs .308 – A Rifle Caliber Comparison, 1986 shootout between FBI agents and bank robbers in Miami, Designed specifically for semiautomatic pistols, .357 Magnum 180-grain Power-Shok: 466 ft-lbs. For my money, I wouldn’t trust a 9mm, even though it seems to pass the test here. According to the Chuck Hawks Handgun Recoil Table, a 2-lb pistol firing a 115-grain 9mm bullet at 1155 fps generates about 3.8 ft-lbs of recoil.A 2.75-lb pistol firing a 180-grain 10mm projectile at 1295 fps - again, close to the original Norma loading - generates 11.4 ft-lbs of recoil. As a good example the 10mm and .357 are compared quite often, when the bullet weight is 200 grain (for instance) and a standard Glock 20 is compared to a 6” .357 the .357 most often wins the numbers game hands down. Since you would be using hollow points that are designed to stop between 12 to 18 inches in gel anyway, why not the Sig for the winner? You are currently reading "10mm VS .357 Magnum Winchester Silvertip Gel Test", entry #27321 on The Captain's Journal.This article is filed under the category(s) Firearms,Guns and was published April 20th, 2021 by Herschel Smith. Fans of the .45 ACP counter that the .45 is bigger at 100 yards than the 10mm is at the muzzle. The 10mm shares case diameter with the .40 Smith & Wesson, so in theory, pistol capacity can be the same in a double-stack design. Its also cheaper, easier to find and you can use .38 special in a pinch in the same gun. But, magazine capacity for all but the .45 would be identical due to the diameter of the case. The 10mm Auto is usually available in larger rounds of 170 to 180 grains, so velocity can decline. 9mm vs. 40 S&W vs. 357 Sig vs. 45 Auto vs 10mm Liberty Ammunition Short Barrel Ballistics Gel Test .41 Magnum 10 Inch Thompson Contender 210gr Underwood JHP Sig Sauer 60gr 223 HP Review with 16 and 18 AR 15s by Philip Massaro - Wednesday, August 7, 2019. The difference in recoil between the 1000fps .45 load and 1100fps 10mm load isn't going to be much. JHP load to the 10mm’s 135 gr JHP load I think you will find out that the 10mm can hold it’s own. YMMV. 10mm semi auto vs 357 revolver for woods gun? and cheaper too. More powerful loadings can equal or exceed the performance of the .357 Magnum, and retain more kinetic energy at 100 yards than the .45 ACP has at the muzzle. I bought PPU for $14.95 on line a couple of weeks ago. It outperforms both the 9mm and 45 ACP. In comparison to 9mm, .357 Sig is a baby. The 10mm is a … Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Palladan44, Nov 11, 2020. Not a fan of the large frame glocks (20/21). 10mm vs 40 Smith & Wesson. I know how nice the WC is from Ruger. A 357 magnum, of which I do not own, just works. Reply. If that is the case is the 10mm inherent advantages only existent in a higher capacity semi auto like the Glock 20. Underwoodammo dot com has both full-power 10mm Auto and full-power .357 Sig. simple as that. Since 1902 the 9mm has gone on to become the world’s most popular handgun cartridge and … and turning heads at the range. .45 vs .40SW vs 10mm vs .357SIG 01-31-2002, 02:20 PM I currently own a Glock 23, very nice gun, accurate, easy to operate, lightweight, but I have read a lot about the .357SIG round, which I can convert to with a simple barrel change-out. You can puch a 155 grain in a 10mm at 1350 fps, and a 158 grain in a 357 Mag about 1300-1350 fps in similar barrel lengths. With a longer case, the cartridge can pack more force behind the bullet, which creates greater velocity and energy, as well as superior terminal ballistics and trajectories. SUBSCRIBE. All alloy would be approaching 18 bhn. The 357 magnum, a venerable cartridge I won’t go into too much detail about the history of this cartridge. The 10mm, although more powerful than the .357 Magnum 'wastes' some of that power by over-penetrating and so is not the equal of the .357 Magnum as a one-shot-stopper. Let's find out as we shoot the Glock 40mos vs. the Ruger 6"GP100 with Underwood Hardcast bear loads! It looks like the .357 magnum edges out the 10mm for power, but the 10mm handily beats the .357 magnum in capacity. But back to the original question on a DA 10mm vs. a .357 Magnum, sectional density wise, for heavy bullets:.357/160 grain/.178.401/200 grain/.178.357/180 grain/.200.401/220 grain/.195 Right now my heavy load for a 10mm is a 200 grain Montana LBT hard cast at probably a little over 1200 fps from the 4.25" GP-100. In the YouTube video below, Elijah pits the two middleweight cartridges against one another and gives us some empirical data. The .357 is available with bullets as light as 110 grains, which means you can achieve greater velocities, usually approaching 1,300 feet per second. 01-21-2015, 19:10. 10mm vs. .40 S&W: Similarities, Differences and Uses. Its design was adopted and later produced by ammunition manufacturer FFV Norma AB of Åmotfors, Sweden.. As you can see, the .357 Magnum produces ballistics that more closely compare to the 10mm Auto. Will sell finished or unfinished. That doesn't mean that It's ineffective, just that there has to be a cutoff somewhere. Essentially the .357 Sig is a .40 S&W bullet bottlenecked down into a 9mm casing that has the power very close to the .357 Magnum. It feels a little like .357 mag but is softened and slowed a bit by the action of a semi auto so it is a bit of a longer push. This is likely because there are more users of the .357 Magnum, so producers have stocked the shelves with hundreds of different choices. If you're interested in what else the The Captain's Journal has to say, you might try thumbing through the archives and visiting the main index, or; perhaps you … At the end of the day, it’s all about how the gun feels in your hands. Sharing the .40 S&W’s case diameter, you can pack quite a few rounds in a double-stack magazine. The .357 Magnum is one of the most historically significant cartridges in the country. I’d go a little heavier — my .357 Magnum is the likely choice for me — and practice, practice, practice. The 10mm couldn't reliably shoot a flat nose much larger than 0.260", while the 357 could reliably shoot a 85% meplat in the 0.305" range. Btw, thoughts on 9mm vs .40/.357 Sig or .45 for carry? 10mm 1911s also offer you a flatter shooting cartridge and only drops a mere 4 inches or so at 100 yards. After the shootout, which left two agents dead, authorities determined that if the agents had been using more powerful weaponry, the shootout would have likely ended before two agents were killed. the 38 Super has been around since 1929, and for a while was the most powerful semi-auto handgun cartridge on the planet. None of the 22 different 357 magnum loads we tested under identical conditions expanded more than .67″. I used to carry a 4" GP100 .357 Mag as my main woods guns for years until I got a Glock G20 10mm… You encounter an unfriendly Grizzly bear. HEAVY 357 MAG OUTDOORSMAN Pistol and Handgun Ammo. Handgun Recoil Table By Chuck Hawks. The .357 Magnum cartridges were made to be used by the police department as they needed a better terminal performing handgun load in the 1930s. The .357 mag is about the minimum in power for protection against large predators or against large game. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. And there’s nothing in 10 that compares to the 180-200gr. When it comes to the 10mm vs .45 ACP, application decides the winner. Overall, however, we see that the .357 is generally capable of reaching higher velocities because it is usually available with lighter bullets, which will mean a faster velocity assuming the pressures are the same. The 9x25 is to the 10mm as the 357 Sig is to the 40 S&W. 10mm Upstart. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, or jacketing The result was a stronger weapon for the good guys and a cartridge that has remained extremely popular among the gun-owning public. I do find the test results in the video interesting. For the non-gun educated, the term .357 magnum itself is enough to bring fear into their minds. 07/13/2012 06:15 PM | by David LaPell. I enjoy it more now especially since brass is scarce . This gives me confidence in the caliber. In any event, regardless of the caliber or cartridge, the idea is to get the bullet to transfer enough energy to incapacitate the target. Yesterday, I say Armscor for $18.99. Let’s start with the harsh reality. It was to be the ultimate 1911 round, something to revitalize the platform. 10mm ammo is more abundant in my area than the .44 Special. Also, the 10mm can throw a much heavier bullet (180-200 grains). Is that True? In a Glock 20/29 you can convert a 10mm to .40 S&W, 357 SIG or, for the exotic, 9x25 Dillon. You can puch a 155 grain in a 10mm at 1350 fps, and a 158 grain in a 357 Mag about 1300-1350 fps in similar barrel lengths. If you compare “apples to apples” and use the .357 Mag’s 125 gr. HEAVY 10MM OUTDOORSMAN Handgun Ammunition. The 10mm beats the Sig in bullet weight for added soft tissue penetration. The .357 Magnum is a powerful cartridge, but in this case it takes a narrow 2nd place to the 10mm Auto. The 10mm Auto (10×25mm, official C.I.P. History of .357 Sig vs. 9mm. It takes a pretty weaksauce .41 mag load to be close to 10mm performance. 10mm vs 44 Magnum Cartridge Comparison. The 10mm doesn’t have any known conversions. Then I got a job which included performing necropsies on wild critters - including black and grizzly bears. 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